function ticker(id, speed, length, text) {
   text = text.substring(1,text.length) + text.substr(0,1);
   newText=">>>" + text.substr(0,length) + "<<<";
   if(w3c) {
      document.getElementById(id).firstChild.data=newText;
   } else if(oldNS) {
   } else if(oldIE) {
   }
   window.setTimeout("ticker('"+id+"',"+speed+","+length+",'"+text+"')",speed);
}